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Help Support Hardline Crawlers :
The term "mudding"
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Nuzzy
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Nuzzy
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Yup...
And dust.
And Rubber burned into the rocks which is all but a permanent defacement.
And Paint embedded in the rocks.
And broken rocks
And scratches and gouges in the rocks.
And oil spills.
And Human waste.
And trash.
And noise.
And...
In a desert environment the "scars" on the rocks will out last the typical human.
IF in accessing these rocks the vehicle was driven across the desert the tracks can easily cause both wind and water erosion due to damage of the extremely sensitive desert top soil.
There are places in CA, NV, AZ where the tracks are more then 60-years old.
You want more? Those are the easy ones that I've already heard in the Eco community... :booo:
notstock
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O.K., let me get this straight.... the perception of mudding by the media is people blasting through the mud & that's bad mmmkay?
But not a word is said about the truck manufactures depiction of "4-wheeling" in the ads they produce?
You know the ones that show them blasting through the river at 40 or up a hill full throttle............and the media says not one word, hmmmm
But not a word is said about the truck manufactures depiction of "4-wheeling" in the ads they produce?
You know the ones that show them blasting through the river at 40 or up a hill full throttle............and the media says not one word, hmmmm
Nuzzy
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O.K., let me get this straight.... the perception of mudding by the media is people blasting through the mud & that's bad mmmkay?
But not a word is said about the truck manufactures depiction of "4-wheeling" in the ads they produce?
You know the ones that show them blasting through the river at 40 or up a hill full throttle............and the media says not one word, hmmmm
(Professional driver on a closed course)
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notstock
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Yes, but the perception for every kid of all ages that watches TV is "Hey cool, thats how you wheel".
Nuzzy
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Agreed that both leave evidence.
In the spirit of the thread though, I feel like I hear more negative media comments towards the damage caused by mudding than the different style of damage caused on the rocks.
I hear things like, This part of trail was shut down for plant rejuvination... Not, this part of trail was shut down so rain could wash rubber off rocks.
Money Mark
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"It's not just what you do, it's how you go about doing it."
Words to live by my friends. Crawling, Mudding or Wheeling.
Words to live by my friends. Crawling, Mudding or Wheeling.
Yup but the day is coming... And you will have to truck the water into Moab and ALL of it back out when it is contaminated with rubber, oil, paint...
I know it sounds DUMB but I started wheeling 40 years ago. I never thought that the Ecofruitcakes would get this far!:booo:
Never underestimate the power of stupidity and money!
crash2
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But you are taking it out of contex--we were talking about the "rig"
I have played in the rocks for some times--even making the long treck down to the hammers twice. This last time I saw zero evidence of me being down there last time. One thing about rocks---a good rain storm and most the evidence is gone--or even the sun beating down on the rocks can do wonders---can you get that from dirt or a medow?
But yes no matter what we make an impact on the land--its how we impact it thats pf the importance...
Totalled
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O.K., let me get this straight.... the perception of mudding by the media is people blasting through the mud & that's bad mmmkay?
But not a word is said about the truck manufactures depiction of "4-wheeling" in the ads they produce?
You know the ones that show them blasting through the river at 40 or up a hill full throttle............and the media says not one word, hmmmm
I think I bitched about that last year on here and posted an article decrying it by the Olympian outdoors guy...
You couldn't be more wrong, I have a TJ for wheeling and I have a Fullsize '71 Chevy for mudding, the mudpits at our annual event is the biggest part of the obstacle course, I think it would be just as big if we only provided the mud pits, I grew up mudding and if it didn't take out u-joints and bearings so bad, I would still do it today. I have to include the fact that I grew up in Eastern Washington, so I am not liberalized enough to call it anything else.
KarlVP
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Like I said in my previous post, mudding is OKAY. As long as it is okay. There are plenty of mud sluts (for lack of a better term) out there. These folks do it legally and in sanctioned areas.
But bring your 71 chevy wheelin? No fawking way, it's a mud truck.
Oh, I see...
My bad.
Which 'RIG' is more lame a Mudder or a Rocker?
Hmmm... that is a tough one.
Based on the comments in this thread and on this board the 'correct' answer I know should be the Mudder. :worship:
The way that I prefer to wheel a rock buggy is one of the least capable, least comfortable, candyassed toys going:flipoff:
I completely enjoy building them, and watching them:awesomework: I just have no desire to own something so limited!
The Mudder, at least my daffynition of one, would be a better choice all around and of the two it would be my choice:beer:
Oh well, that's just me:looser:
crash2
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Awsome thread..
Kinda cool to see others opinions on this matter...
Kinda cool to see others opinions on this matter...
1 grumpy
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I'm with you on that one
Ahhh... but you see where I live there is virtually no mud.
SO for me, today a Prerunner in the summer, 2WD would be the best choice.
Mudderz make great snow trucks so that could be a choice but a 4WD Prerunner would be the best choice.
Interestingly in todays world the runner and the Mudder are fairly similar, totally excluding tires.:beer:
