Towing and Tie downs. To the axles, or the "bumpers/suspension"

[War-Jeeper]

I have a electromagnet mounted under the decking of my trailer. I simply drive the Jeep o, throw the switch and done

Wanna hook me up with one of them

 

[KarlVP]

Either way you do it, if your straps are failing during an accident, does that mean they aren't sufficent? Should we use stronger rigging to attach our vehicles to our trailers?

 

[NotMatt]

Either way you do it, if your straps are failing during an accident, does that mean they aren't sufficent? Should we use stronger rigging to attach our vehicles to our trailers?

That's one of the things that scares me the most about getting in an accident with my rig on a trailer behind me. I want that ****er to stay put on the trailer, no matter what else happens.

I cross two straps to opposite sides on the front axle (I forget the rating on them, need to check that), and tie the rear down with a chain. I'm thinking about changing the rear to cross straps as well before the next time I tow, but I do like the solidness of the chain... maybe just psychological.

 

[crash2]

Either way you do it, if your straps are failing during an accident, does that mean they aren't sufficent? Should we use stronger rigging to attach our vehicles to our trailers?

Speaking of which--I need to replace my rear straps...

 

[Nuzzy]

Axles. axles. axles.

 

[CrustyJeep]

No not butt hurt, just think Karl is gay for argueing over this.

This is a very good topic of discussion. The only reason you can't see that is because you're butthurt. Relax and try to learn something.

 

[KarlVP]

This makes me wonder what the Military uses to tie **** down and how they rig thier HMMWVs and stuff. Especially when they transport them Via aircraft.

Joop or Wildman, how did the Army rig stuff?

Just wondering, not trying to start ****. In the Navy when they rig the aircraft to the decks of the carriers, we chain them to the landing gear. Not to the aircraft itself.

 

[JOOP]

This makes me wonder what the Military uses to tie **** down and how they rig thier HMMWVs and stuff. Especially when they transport them Via aircraft.

Joop or Wildman, how did the Army rig stuff?

Just wondering, not trying to start ****. In the Navy when they rig the aircraft to the decks of the carriers, we chain them to the landing gear. Not to the aircraft itself.

Funny you should ask,. because in Air assault we air lifted and secured our rigs by the bumper. When we shipped them across country on the train, we secured them by the bumper.

Plus your comparing an aircraft to a hummer.

 

[CrustyJeep]

Plus your comparing an aircraft to a hummer.

So? They both have suspension...

 

[JOOP]

So? They both have suspension...

Were you born a idiot?? :eeek:

Where's the bumper on a f-18? Where's the strength in lightweight alluminum

 

[CHOP SHOP]

a hummer or 2.5 ton dont squat like a set of airshocks. also the hummer is like 62 feet wide, so its stable anyways!:redneck:


I thought olny buggy nazis trailered anyways.:fawkdancesmiley:

my dads trailer has no suspension (its real low for hauling hot rods etc.) and you have to hook to the suspension so it rides good. If you strap it down to the frame or bumpers it has no ride at all. not the best setup, but he has been using it that way since the early 60s.:awesomework:

 

[CrustyJeep]

Where's the bumper on a f-18?

No bumper, but they almost certainly have anchor points on the fuselage and/or wings.

Where's the strength in lightweight alluminum

:eeek: :rofl:

 

[Jaydog]

I don't see why there is even an arguement, read the Laws and do it right. :;

 

[Wildman1]

No not butt hurt, just think Karl is gay for argueing over this. Like I said before, "do what works for you, But dont weld your shitty ass hitch to your bumper, especially if you CANT ****ING WELD!!"

Nope not mad, just think Karl is gay for the arguement. I know what works for me.

It is not gay it is a good question and I do think you like argueing with Karl!! :rb: :looser: :corn:

This makes me wonder what the Military uses to tie **** down and how they rig thier HMMWVs and stuff. Especially when they transport them Via aircraft.

Joop or Wildman, how did the Army rig stuff?

Just wondering, not trying to start ****. In the Navy when they rig the aircraft to the decks of the carriers, we chain them to the landing gear. Not to the aircraft itself.

Okay I am trying to remember how on a aircraft we secured a vehicle. And I only did it a few times so I don't remmeber.

Now on a trailer or on a train we went to the bumpers with the chains crossed but also the wheels chocked. The chocks were NAILED to the flat bed. That was both rail and truck transport. Now I hauled a frontend loader in Korea and had a hell of a time with the chains comeing loose because the tires would flex. Finally chained it over the axles and the problem was solved.

Funny you should ask,. because in Air assault we air lifted and secured our rigs by the bumper. When we shipped them across country on the train, we secured them by the bumper.

Plus your comparing an aircraft to a hummer.

I would have to really dig thru stuff but when I went to Air Assult school (1982) we lifted the vehivles by the wheels which is why they had/have the eyes on the hubs. Look at a Hummer wheel. But it has been a long time for me so I could be wrong. And a F18 has a suspension just like a Hummer does.

So? They both have suspension...

Yep they both do. I still think Joop just wants to argue with someone.

You strap/chain your rig down how you want & I'll do the same. But it is noce to hear how others do it too. So stop argueing and maybe you'll learn something.

 

[Wildman1]

Speaking of which--I need to replace my rear straps...

I got mine from Poly Performance. They are shorter straps made for tieing rigs down.

I don't see why there is even an arguement, read the Laws and do it right. :;

Okay what does the LAW say??????

 

[JOOP]

It is not gay it is a good question and I do think you like argueing with Karl!! :rb: :looser: :corn:




Okay I am trying to remember how on a aircraft we secured a vehicle. And I only did it a few times so I don't remmeber.

Now on a trailer or on a train we went to the bumpers with the chains crossed but also the wheels chocked. The chocks were NAILED to the flat bed. That was both rail and truck transport. Now I hauled a frontend loader in Korea and had a hell of a time with the chains comeing loose because the tires would flex. Finally chained it over the axles and the problem was solved.



I would have to really dig thru stuff but when I went to Air Assult school (1982) we lifted the vehivles by the wheels which is why they had/have the eyes on the hubs. Look at a Hummer wheel. But it has been a long time for me so I could be wrong. And a F18 has a suspension just like a Hummer does.




Yep they both do. I still think Joop just wants to argue with someone.

You strap/chain your rig down how you want & I'll do the same. But it is noce to hear how others do it too. So stop argueing and maybe you'll learn something.

Hummers didn't come into service until the mid 80's. (1986??)

Hummers sling load are IIRC 82-83 link count for the rear bumper. Yes we picked them up by the rear bumper. The front was picked up by the shock hoops on the hood for sling loads. For rail transport they were secured by the bumper, chalked, and chains crossed.


Since we're in the argueing mood. Lets argue the old chains' vs. straps:stirpot:

 

[CrustyJeep]

Since we're in the argueing mood. Lets argue the old chains' vs. straps:stirpot:

Which do you use?

 

[FiFo]

Two straps on each axle crossing over to the opposing side of the trailer. It avoids the compression problems Karl has mentioned, plus my rear suspension is so stiff that the jeep doesn

 

[JOOP]

Which do you use?

BOTH :flipoff:

 

[Wildman1]

Hummers didn't come into service until the mid 80's. (1986??)

Hummers sling load are IIRC 82-83 link count for the rear bumper. Yes we picked them up by the rear bumper. The front was picked up by the shock hoops on the hood for sling loads. For rail transport they were secured by the bumper, chalked, and chains crossed.


Since we're in the argueing mood. Lets argue the old chains' vs. straps:stirpot:

Well I am aware that Hummers were not around until the mid 80's. But the M151 and even a duce I think we picked up by the wheels. Not going to argue about it because it was too long ago and I am not 100% sure.

Shock hoops??? You are :rb: They are not shock hoops they are sling points that come up thru the hood. Nothing more. Matter of fact they are also not for lifting when being towed!!

Your correct about the tied down with chains and crossed which is what I said.

And AGAIN there is no need to argue. You do it your way and I'll do it mine. I choose to use straps over chains. If I was to tie down from the bumper instead of the axle I might be likely to use chains.


Now on a sidenote,
The last time I hauled a CAR on my trailer I straped it down from the frame. This more because there really wasn't an axle to strap to than anything else. My Jeep rides great with it strapped down at the axle. But I can also LOWER my suspension down. If I had a coil or leaf spring suspension and SOLID axles I would still strap it down at the axle but I might also strap it at the bumpers to limit sway.