FJ80 front axle hub studs sheared, trying to fix

grcthird · Aug 29, 2013

They basically keep you from having to **** around with the extractor when the spin out. Some of mine came right out, i had to **** with one or two.

TBItoy · Aug 29, 2013

Neal3000 said:
I think 91-94 have shorter stubshafts than 95 and later, and 93-94 birfs have abs signal gears on them. After i thought about the aisin hubs wouldn't help you with your problem because your still stuck with the 80 series wheel hubs with no way to add more dowels

ABS with the longer birfs should be 93-97. The drive flanges are longer on the ABS axles to make up for the longer stub shaft.

I didn't know that the wheel hubs were different, I thought all FJ80 wheel hubs had the bolts in from the front side.

I've owned 97, 96, 94, and 2 91 model axles and honestly can't remember if the wheel hubs are different. I know the brakes and knuckles are different, but the brakes are interchangeable (rotor and calipers have to match, but are swappable)

Like I said Josh, there are 2 hubs from a 91 laying at the JY in La Vernge, I can swing by and pick them up if you want a spare.

TacomaJD · Aug 30, 2013

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TBItoy said:
ABS with the longer birfs should be 93-97. The drive flanges are longer on the ABS axles to make up for the longer stub shaft.

I didn't know that the wheel hubs were different, I thought all FJ80 wheel hubs had the bolts in from the front side.

I've owned 97, 96, 94, and 2 91 model axles and honestly can't remember if the wheel hubs are different. I know the brakes and knuckles are different, but the brakes are interchangeable (rotor and calipers have to match, but are swappable)

Like I said Josh, there are 2 hubs from a 91 laying at the JY in La Vernge, I can swing by and pick them up if you want a spare.

Idk, I just found that vid on Youtube and was talking with Eric Hagan (had several Land Cruisers) earlier today and he thought the bolts would be on the backside of the rotor too, so I'm not sure what the differences are. Thanks Nick, I'm gonna try to just fix this one and hopefully won't have an issue breaking another set of studs for a while. Next time, I won't be pulling anyone in reverse. Gonna put a d ring on the rear to tug with.

TBItoy · Aug 30, 2013

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TacomaJD said:
Idk, I just found that vid on Youtube and was talking with Eric Hagan (had several Land Cruisers) earlier today and he thought the bolts would be on the backside of the rotor too, so I'm not sure what the differences are. Thanks Nick, I'm gonna try to just fix this one and hopefully won't have an issue breaking another set of studs for a while. Next time, I won't be pulling anyone in reverse. Gonna put a d ring on the rear to tug with.

That video you posted is from a newer 100 series cruiser I think (overseas they still had straight front axles), notice that it is a big 5 lug

Yeah, I'd definitely fix what you have with some 7/16 bolts.

I'd be scared to pull backwards anyway, you got a high pinion frontend, so it's weaker running in reverse!

TacomaJD · Aug 30, 2013

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TBItoy said:
That video you posted is from a newer 100 series cruiser I think (overseas they still had straight front axles), notice that it is a big 5 lug

Yeah, I'd definitely fix what you have with some 7/16 bolts.

I'd be scared to pull backwards anyway, you got a high pinion frontend, so it's weaker running in reverse!

I had a few chardonnays! Lol he was just on his side and I was trying to turn him over, didn't figure it was gonna be hard to do, but he was wedged in pretty tight between two rocks...next thing I know, snaaaap!

Neal3000 · Aug 30, 2013

TBItoy said:
ABS with the longer birfs should be 93-97. The drive flanges are longer on the ABS axles to make up for the longer stub shaft.

I didn't know that the wheel hubs were different, I thought all FJ80 wheel hubs had the bolts in from the front side.

I've owned 97, 96, 94, and 2 91 model axles and honestly can't remember if the wheel hubs are different. I know the brakes and knuckles are different, but the brakes are interchangeable (rotor and calipers have to match, but are swappable)

Like I said Josh, there are 2 hubs from a 91 laying at the JY in La Vernge, I can swing by and pick them up if you want a spare.

i wasn't trying to say that the wheel hubs are different between the different years of FJ80's, just that you can't use a Aisin lockout hub on the later ones with longer birfs unless you cut a new snap ring groove on the end of it (which wouldn't be a big deal imo.)

also i read that the 91-92 flanges are thinner and more prone to getting wallered out and ruirnt- kinda like Rogers favorite nanny goat :****:

TBItoy · Aug 30, 2013

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Neal3000 said:
i wasn't trying to say that the wheel hubs are different between the different years of FJ80's, just that you can't use a Aisin lockout hub on the later ones with longer birfs unless you cut a new snap ring groove on the end of it (which wouldn't be a big deal imo.)

also i read that the 91-92 flanges are thinner and more prone to getting wallered out and ruirnt- kinda like Rogers favorite nanny goat :****:

Yeah you didn't say anything about wheel hubs, I had moved on to another thought to discuss wheel hubs.

I've seen that mentioned about the early flanges.

I've never actually ran a 80 axle, just bought-sold-parted out a few

zukimaster · Aug 30, 2013

I got one of those 54mm sockets pecker head, you should have called me.

muddinmetal · Aug 30, 2013

There is just so much misinformation out there on 80 series axles. I thought pre abs 80s and minitruck drive flanges were interchangeable :dunno:

and that 80 series cruisers shared almost nothing with older cruisers except a 9.5inch rear ring gear, hell, idk.

Josh, 80series tech on ih8mud is the sh*t for situations like these

Neal3000 · Aug 30, 2013

muddinmetal said:
I thought pre abs 80s and minitruck drive flanges were interchangeable and that 80 series cruisers shared almost nothing with older cruisers except a 9.5inch rear ring gear, hell, idk.

Thats all true

TBItoy · Aug 30, 2013

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muddinmetal said:
There is just so much misinformation out there on 80 series axles. I thought pre abs 80s and minitruck drive flanges were interchangeable and that 80 series cruisers shared almost nothing with older cruisers except a 9.5inch rear ring gear, hell, idk.

Josh, 80series tech on ih8mud is the sh*t for situations like these

You can use pre abs 80 flanges on mini truck hubs, and vice versa with hubs, the issue comes from trying to add the extra dowel pins.

Josh could technically use the creeper flanges, but couldnt utilize the 4 extra pins , so he wouldn't really gain anything

Actually it may be the other way around? Maybe you can use ABS stuff-mini truck interchangeable.

TacomaJD · Aug 30, 2013

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TBItoy said:
You can use pre abs 80 flanges on mini truck hubs, and vice versa with hubs, the issue comes from trying to add the extra dowel pins.

Josh could technically use the creeper flanges, but couldnt utilize the 4 extra pins , so he wouldn't really gain anything

This! Thus deeming their pricetag too much for no improvement over the way it was.

TacomaJD · Aug 30, 2013

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zukimaster said:
I got one of those 54mm sockets pecker head, you should have called me.

I prolly come get it soon. I needed to order one anyways so I could have one to keep in the shop. But i really need one this weekend to go ahead and get the hub off and carry it over to dad's, so I'll hollar at you later.

mna0121 · Aug 30, 2013

Surprised someone hasn't warned you about that "EASY OUT" kit, it is neither easy or out, most of the time. Should have been called "broken off POS" now I got two fkn problems!!!!

TacomaJD · Aug 30, 2013

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mna0121 said:
Surprised someone hasn't warned you about that "EASY OUT" kit, it is neither easy or out, most of the time. Should have been called "broken off POS" now I got two fkn problems!!!!

Haha yea I've done had a few ppl already warn me outside of Hardline lol. I'm just gonna **** with it and see what I can do. I ain't a Tanner and hellbent on being back going by the following weekend, I don't have that much drive and drink too much beer lol.

Neal3000 · Aug 30, 2013

A Screwdriver and a hammer will get the hub nuts off :****:

TacomaJD · Aug 30, 2013

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Neal3000 said:
A Screwdriver and a hammer will get the hub nuts off :****:

This gets my nuts off....

grcthird · Aug 31, 2013

Neal3000 said:
A Screwdriver and a hammer will get the hub nuts off :****:

Truth. The only way mine have ever been taken apart and put back together.

al1tonyota · Aug 31, 2013

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TacomaJD said:
This gets my nuts off....

If it weren't for these kind of pics I would say you were gay! Use a screwdriver Or a punch Or a chisel to get your spindle nuts off that cute ass ain't gonna be much help!

TacomaJD · Aug 31, 2013

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al1tonyota said:
If it weren't for these kind of pics I would say you were gay! Use a screwdriver Or a punch Or a chisel to get your spindle nuts off that cute ass ain't gonna be much help!

These are the mild pics! ....I got that 54mm socket from Chad earlier, just got pre-occupied drinking beer tonight so I didn't fawk with it. Tomorrow is a new day....and also got my new quick disconnect in for the steering wheel dad is gonna let me have, woohoo! Now if only there was a waffle house within reasonable distance.....it's 5:18am and I'm fawkin' hawngry!