what he's saying is that by putting in a longer shackle it is impossible how you said there was no change, it has to get farther away when adding shackle length.
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what he's saying is that by putting in a longer shackle it is impossible how you said there was no change, it has to get farther away when adding shackle length.
the longer shackle probably just let the spring flatten out and the long schackle leveled it out so the angle was still the same... He needs to move one of the mounts, as it is right nows you won't get full travel out of the spring (spring can't flatten out all the way)
CrustyJeep
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They will with longer shackles.
The pics might be deceiving, but it sure looks like he's at least in the ball bark mount wise.
*shrug*
heres a closer picture so you can see were it should be mounted. dont get me wrong a six inch shackle changed the angle but it would take about an 7-8'' to get me at the angle i need. i really do aapreciate the advice but like you said pictures are deceiving so you dont see what i see when im looking at it.
Binder
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So there's a gusset in the middle of this shakle? Does the gusset hit the frame or does the side of the shakle just rub the frame?
dove'd85
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damn that sucks! no there's no gusset inbetween the two shackle plates, i wonder why they did that....:eeek:
Couldnt you just cut that gusset out and run it that way???? I mean **** your yota cant be that heavy to bend or break them without a gusset. . . I have a fullsize with the exact same shackle length with no gusset and I have had no problems!:awesomework:
its just me but I would try cutting just the gusset out before i started redoing mounts and ****. . . . :corn:
its just me but I would try cutting just the gusset out before i started redoing mounts and ****. . . . :corn:
CrustyJeep
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I still say the mounts are right, and the shackles are wrong. That's deliberately vague. Look at the shackle and think about how it could be revised to avoid contacting the frame.
Binder
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So the side of the shakle touches the side/ corner of the frame? The spring doesn't hit at all? Sounds to me like it's fine.....
can we see a picture looking down the frame lengthwise showing the shackle? Sounds like you need to space the shackle out some or make some offset type shackles:eeek:
this is from the installation instructions spaceing is right on the shackle tubes but its mounted to far forward. what i figure the problem is is the mount gets mounted right were the frame gets wider and with mounting it were they did it the shackle angle is wrong and it hits the frame if they mounted it correctly the angle would be right and it wont hit the frame. but not only the shackle angle is wrong but they mounted the hanger back to far alsoit is supose to be set out 3/4'' from the front of the frame and it is actually set in1/4''. so looks like i will be changing both.
Frame Tubes and Jigs
To mount the front shackles, tubes are installed in to the frame. Jigs are provided to properly position the tubes in the frame. Each jig is labeled with an arrow and "R" or "L". The jig labeled R is for the Right side (passenger) and the jig labeled L is for the Left side (driver). The arrow points toward the front of the truck.
Place the frame jig onto the frame and center the jig in the body mount under the firewall. Mark or scribe both the inside and outside of the frame rails. Using a plasma cutter or torch, cut the holes through the frame. The jigs can also be tacked into place and used as a guide during cutting. Slide each frame tube into the frame. Center the frame tube in its hole. After centering the tube, push the tube toward the outside of the frame 1/4". Now weld the frame tube in place. Now do the other frame tube, centering it up and then pushing it out 1/4" before welding in place. Weld both the inside and outside of the frame around the shackle tube.
Frame Tubes and Jigs
To mount the front shackles, tubes are installed in to the frame. Jigs are provided to properly position the tubes in the frame. Each jig is labeled with an arrow and "R" or "L". The jig labeled R is for the Right side (passenger) and the jig labeled L is for the Left side (driver). The arrow points toward the front of the truck.
Place the frame jig onto the frame and center the jig in the body mount under the firewall. Mark or scribe both the inside and outside of the frame rails. Using a plasma cutter or torch, cut the holes through the frame. The jigs can also be tacked into place and used as a guide during cutting. Slide each frame tube into the frame. Center the frame tube in its hole. After centering the tube, push the tube toward the outside of the frame 1/4". Now weld the frame tube in place. Now do the other frame tube, centering it up and then pushing it out 1/4" before welding in place. Weld both the inside and outside of the frame around the shackle tube.
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CrustyJeep
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dove'd85
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bummer man what pain in the ass
Binder
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Sounds like you have it all figured out. Why are you here asking us web wheelers?
because i was looking for some advice.and all i got out of 6 pages is a longer shackle will fix the problem and i try it it doesnt fix the problem a couple other guys told me to move the hanger forward. so that was my next step. so i got ahold of trail-gear sense it is there kit that was used and they told me what was wrong. im sorry if crustys all frustrated but the longer shackle thing didnt work and i wont put a 7-8'' shackle on there my truck is already to tall. ive got 26'' of belly clearance
CrustyJeep
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1) You didn't provide all the info up front.
2) Your shackles are stupid. If you fix them, you'll be fine.
But what do I know, I'm just a web wheeler.
This is because (at least from my point of view) That you made it look like the problem was that the spring eye was hitting on the frame when in reality your problem is the side of the shackle rubbing on the frame rail. Seems like a pretty easy fix to me :eeek:
