DNR update

crash2 · Oct 16, 2009

zukkev said:
X2, Well said....A big thanks to ALL those who are taking their time to help with moving this forward!!!!:awesomework:

And I would like to thank all of you out there who are supporting our efforts and I look forward to the future volunteers who will help make and build the "new" reiter.

zukkev · Oct 16, 2009

crash said:
And I would like to thank all of you out there who are supporting our efforts and I look forward to the future volunteers who will help make and build the "new" reiter.

:awesomework::awesomework:

Binder · Oct 16, 2009

pokey said:
If you don't belong to a group thats being represented at this meeting well then maybe you need to look at yourself and ask why:eeek:

Jim there are other issues and reasons that aren't apperant when reading these threads.:;

Boonie Buster · Oct 16, 2009

So how do they plan to block off Reiter? Close the gates and put up 10,000 jersey barriers across the main pit? :redneck: (I know this will get answered at the meeting, but I'm asking it before...)

nowires · Oct 16, 2009

crash said:
And I would like to thank all of you out there who are supporting our efforts and I look forward to the future volunteers who will help make and build the "new" reiter.

Me to I really appreciate it :awesomework::awesomework::awesomework:

stealthrunner1 · Oct 16, 2009

nowires said:
Me to I really appreciate it :awesomework::awesomework::awesomework:

Me to!!!! :clappy::clappy::clappy:

The_Shocker · Oct 16, 2009

Binder said:
Jim there are other issues and reasons that aren't apperant when reading these threads.:;

So why don't you come out and say what your wanting to say? Scared?:eeek:

pokey · Oct 16, 2009

Binder said:
Jim there are other issues and reasons that aren't apperant when reading these threads.:;

I fully understand that there are a lot of interpersonal issues going on. My point was that the agencys like to work with one or two contact people for planning and such. There is a time and place for large meetings and public opinion and discussion but there is also a time and place for quiet and concentrated work and planning. If we want them to work with us then we need to work the way they do or we will get shut out of the process.

CHOP SHOP · Oct 16, 2009

pokey said:
My point was that the agencys like to work with one or two contact people for planning and such.

yeah back when elbe was the subject, DNR worked with one or two contact individuals that wanted to have restrictions and wanted to get it passed quick with the support of the PNW.

Good thing a couple hundred folks showed up to let the DNR know that the PNW represents a very small portion of elbes users and was not properly representing ALL of its users.

There are some agendas the select few dont want resistance form.:;

CHOP SHOP · Oct 16, 2009

please dont lock me out of this thread because I dont agree with you jim.

I have not insulted you or others, please be fair and not lock me out like you have done with every elbe thread. Just cuz you dont like someones view, its not fair to abuse your mod privileges to "correct" the agenda.

megatoy66 · Oct 16, 2009

CHOP SHOP said:
yeah back when elbe was the subject, DNR worked with one or two contact individuals that wanted to have restrictions and wanted to get it passed quick with the support of the PNW.

Good thing a couple hundred folks showed up to let the DNR know that the PNW represents a very small portion of elbes users and was not properly representing ALL of its users.

There are some agendas the select few dont want resistance form.:;

I agree with this comment 100%.

Binder · Oct 16, 2009

The_Shocker said:
So why don't you come out and say what your wanting to say? Scared?:eeek:

Because if I write the truth then my post gets deleted- changed to something I didn't say- I get locked out of the thread- I get banned....So what's the point?

CHOP SHOP · Oct 16, 2009

Binder said:
Because if I write the truth then my post gets deleted- changed to something I didn't say- I get locked out of the thread- I get banned....So what's the point?

Thats how it goes down with the Mod Squad.:;

crash2 · Oct 16, 2009

Binder said:
Because if I write the truth then my post gets deleted- changed to something I didn't say- I get locked out of the thread- I get banned....So what's the point?

Like when?

Get over yourself and say whats on your mind.

crash2 · Oct 16, 2009

CHOP SHOP said:
please dont lock me out of this thread because I dont agree with you jim.

I have not insulted you or others, please be fair and not lock me out like you have done with every elbe thread. Just cuz you dont like someones view, its not fair to abuse your mod privileges to "correct" the agenda.

If its kept cival you won't(pokey does not have the power to do so) and keep this thread on track...

The_Shocker · Oct 16, 2009

This is different from :stirpot: and getting banned. This is a VERY important topic and EVERYONE should be able to freely express their concerns no matter if others don't like it. I say Crash and other mods should give you a one time pass to post your thoughts and if others get it outta hand then THEY get censored but you should be able to at least express your thoughts. Hopefully we can all be civil about it. :awesomework:

Whadya Say Crash?

nate8887 · Oct 16, 2009

pokey said:
I fully understand that there are a lot of interpersonal issues going on. My point was that the agencys like to work with one or two contact people for planning and such. There is a time and place for large meetings and public opinion and discussion but there is also a time and place for quiet and concentrated work and planning. If we want them to work with us then we need to work the way they do or we will get shut out of the process.

I justed wanted to come and listen not particapate I do not know enough about what is going on to particapate. But how am I suppose to educate myself and get involved and help out if I am being told "invitation Only" I just want to do my part.

crash2 · Oct 16, 2009

nate8887 said:
I justed wanted to come and listen not particapate I do not know enough about what is going on to particapate. But how am I suppose to educate myself and get involved and help out if I am being told "invitation Only" I just want to do my part.

Trust "all" the folks who are attending to get the info back to the users. I am sure between mark, folks from RTW and PNW representation the information will get out and folks will be educated on what exactly is going on. I can say for myself (and others I would assume) I am here to make sure you guys knows whats going on and I have done so to this point to the best of what DNR has let us know...

crash2 · Oct 16, 2009

The_Shocker said:
This is different from :stirpot: and getting banned. This is a VERY important topic and EVERYONE should be able to freely express their concerns no matter if others don't like it. I say Crash and other mods should give you a one time pass to post your thoughts and if others get it outta hand then THEY get censored but you should be able to at least express your thoughts. Hopefully we can all be civil about it. :awesomework:

Whadya Say Crash?

I am not here to censor folks (granted I own the right to) and this is an important subject we need to freely be able to discuss...

edit--I have not censored anybody on this matter either.

japerry · Oct 16, 2009

my take so far from this thread is that Crash and the other mods won't censor constructive critism or concern...

The issue I have with some posts is when the topic turns into government name calling and making broad generalizations or assumptions based on rumor rather than fact. Personal attacks on each other are even more harmful, and have no place here.

I think Crash and the mods have every right and even a duty to keep this thread constructive so we can all achieve what we want: Good trails and areas to recreate on.