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TacomaJD

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Man the ole lady has turned into super bitch, I mean ****ing bad. We've both expressed that we are not happy the way **** is going. When its good its good, when its bad its ****ing war. She has a damn attitude all the time, bitches about everything, and I guess thinks she deserves a cookie for working long hours while completely refusing to recognize all the **** I do for her and her son on top of working and going to school. She works a lot and we have been looking for her another job with better hours, but I stay wayyyyy more busy than she does. Not that its a competition, she just always tries to use that she works all the time like I dont do **** haha. I shouldn't laugh, but it is almost comedic that she is able to overlook all the work I do at her renter house so she can pull that $500 check each month that I see none of, mow 3 of her damn yards (inherited property) and the yard at our house, I do all my own laundry, try to keep the house clean, wash all the dishes, get her son up and ready for school to get on the bus or take him to school since she is already at work each morning, I go to school myself, work full time, etc. My free time went to ****, and Im ok with it, I like staying busy. But we argue over stupid **** all the time, constantly. She cannot hold her ****ing tongue and act like a grown up, 100% attitude and its becoming too much to deal with. She is an unreasonable ****ing bitch. This **** started about a month or so before the wedding, but I just wrote it up as she just had too much on her with work, wedding planning, trying to buy new house, etc, because it definitely was a stressful time. But it aint changed and keeps getting worse.

Long as I get to keep the house, I am about ready to go sign on that dotted line and get out of this ****. Surely I could get refinanced in my name, as her name is also on current loan. We only paid minimum down payment which was $6600 and she only paid $2k of it and since then we have only made 1 house payment of which she only paid $200 of the $888 payment, which are the numbers we agreed on. Other than that, she pays the tv bill and her car payment, and I pay everything else including her cell phone bill and auto insurance. We keep our money accounts completely separate so I don't see why this couldn't be a semi painless process.

She didn't get a lot of money when her dad died like a lot of ppl think, just $13k, but got a lot of property. She got his old house that she lived in with him before we got engaged last June. It needs some remodeling (we planned on fixing up and renting it out), but is very livable, so she has somewhere to go and plenty money saved up to live on... I don't have anywhere else to go. My old house has tenants in it now. So it is imperitive I keep our new house, and I can afford it. But I've heard it may be difficult to refinance being that the loan is already in my name, like I'm close to my credit limit or something, even though the current loan would go away if I was able to refinance in my name. Idk....gotta look into it.

Not really sure why I confide in you guys regarding this, just needed to vent and possibly take away some advice from you wise fellers. ****ing pisses me off that it's came to this. So much wasted time and money. Discussion open.

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onetoncrawler said:
That's rough man, hope everything goes as smoothly as it can for you.
It aint 100% yet but its as close as its been. Sure does suck, but might be whats best for both of us. I just hate it for little man, we get along good.

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Hate to hear this. It takes a lot of work. There are good days/weeks/years and there are bad ones.. Sit down with her and talk. Listen as much as you talk. Explain what you are feeling and what you do for her. Ask her what she wants...try and work together at it. Dont give up..marriage is a adjustment. She had her idea of what it would be like and so did you.

All that being said when I met her at RBD, I didn't get a warm and fuzzy feeling about her but I literally talked to her for a few minutes and was honestly in a daze about John G, so don't look into that at all.
 
She was out of her element at rbd, she was ready to go way before the party at camp but knew I wanted to stay all night (and I had warned her ahead of time before we went what to expect) so she was just letting me have my fun and then we left when the party started dying down. She actually done good, never really saying lets go, bc she knew I wanted to stay. She is not a big partyer or drinker but doesn't mind at all that I do it.

We never argue about the stuff most ppl do like money, if I want to take a night off and go out with some buddies, having her friends over, having my buddies over, etc. We argue over the stupidest ****, that she smarts off about and I just cant let it go bc there is no sense in acting that way. And we have talked about it numerous times, agree to do better, and she don't change a bit lol. Maybe it just took this long for her to get so comfortable around me that her smart mouth is finally showing through.

Like yesterday, I was literally thinking to myself to be extra nice so we could have a good night with Weston (her son), we get in the car to carry him to the jump park in Huntsville, she starts in griping about me sleeping all day while she had to work and I tried to nicely remind her that I work 2nd shift so my sleeping in hours are different from hers and that she isn't the only one that has been working hard this week. In the most smartass tone, she says "Riiight...." and rolls ger eyes..... ooooh, that ****ing flew all over me. I worked my ass off at both work and school for my Statistics final this week and while I don't seek recognition for it, that bitch ain't gonna act like I don't do **** and get by with it.

Since I posted this yesterday, her and her son went on to the jump park yesterday without me, I turned around and came back home. She text me the whole time they were gone wanting to try to work things out and acting like a different person than when she was in the house running her mouth to me (her son was outside on the swingset), saying she wasn't happy, if this kept up she was done, blah blah, and trying to make it all look like my fault, etc. Never acknowledging any fault of her own as usual.

I figured she got to thinking how bad it would suck if she had to handle all the **** I handle for her if she found herself single and decided to change her tune. But this aint the first time that's happened, and I am getting tired of the same old song and dance every couple weeks.

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Glad you are standing up for yourself. Be calm and point out when she is being that way.
 
I stuck it out, still not terribly happy but at 10 years its getting better. Search threads from exactly 10 years ago in my name. MOst of them are me rambling about WTF happened to this girl I dated?! We have friends that years 1-4 were hell, now they're happy. The same old stupid fights get old, so you quit having them. It's no way to live, but its A way to live if there's a kid
 
I had to learn to bite my tongue. It's better that way... like Kelly said fighting over stupid stuff gets old and it'll stop hopefully if you can stick it out. Just my .02 good luck!
 
We had a long talk yesterday, put everything out on the table, she agreed to making much more of an effort to get along, and I said I would as well. If it keeps on, I will 100% make an exit before I waste more time and money. Will just have to see how it goes. The way it's been going, I'll see within a couple months whether or not it's gonna work long term. I am perfectly content being single, won't bother me a bit to go back to it before I stay with someone that makes me miserable every other week like its been going. Time will tell. May not be a thing change, she might make a 180. We'll see.
 
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Juan_Hong_Loe said:
Oh yeah and once I realized she was "right" things got better too. Whether or not she is or isn't she always right and it makes life easier. thumb.gif
See I have a complex that doesn't allow me to let that kind of **** go haha. And not that I am mean about it, I usually try to teach her why she is wrong with hopes that she learns something. But i may have to get better at that. Damn sure didn't expect this much problems this early on.

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Ok, I am going to step out of my "fatherly leadership" role and interject my .02.

This is what is wrong with society today, too damn many people optioning out of situations and taking the easy way out. I respect the hell out of Kelly and Daniel for sticking it out and hope it continues to get better and better for you because I know for a fact that it does after 22 years being married. Josh, the ink isn't even dry on your marriage certificate and you both are already looking to get out!!!**** THAT... You said "I do" Casey said "I do", now suck it up and make it work out. Did the minister say "In sickness and health, for richer for poorer, till death do you part" YES, or did he say, "this is going to be rough and if you want to come back and get an Annulment"?NO.. Marriage takes work on both your parts and is not easy by any means. It is not always going to be coming home to the little lady wearing an apron and bringing you a cold Chocolate pudding brown pilsner on your easy chair and serving you a 7 course meals like Ward and June Cleaver. It takes two to make it work and in your situation, it takes 3.
Think back to last year, you were constantly posting up pictures of the 3 of you riding all over God's creation, eating, drinking, playing as a family and having fun. You sold the Red Baron and other toys so that you could cement your relationship with her. Both of your lives changed as you wanted them too, now 5 months into this and you are looking to throw all of it away.

Ephesians 5:25: "For husbands, this means love your wives, just as Christ loved the church. He gave up his life for her."
Genesis 2:24: "Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh."

Maybe(probably) this is not what you want to hear from me, call me a **** if you want, but I don't want to see you make a mistake that you will regret later by taking the easy road. Before you two make up your minds to throw in the towel, look at the BIG picture and put aside your individual feelings and try to see each others side. IT can work and will if you really want it too, and I think you do.




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I'm the youngest of five full-blooded children. I'm the only one that's never been married but have had serious live-ins. Two siblings have been married multiple times and two have made a pact to WORK THROUGH anything with their spouse. It's been my experience that once a person has experienced divorce, then that is ALWAYS their first option for them in the next relationship.
After my last live-in of a few years, I decided that I was done. It was a divorce of sorts and lots of invested money lost and financial stress was incurred on my end. 8 years after she moved out, I've only dated a few girls and almost got serious once. It's a very hard life going through life staying single... but it's so much more euphoric than what I went through with my past relationships and what you describe as well.
I'm convinced that when I meet a woman that loves the same things I do, and not just outdoor activities, but pointless travel, family on the weekends, fire pits when your bored on a wednesday night... stupid relaxing ****.... then and only then will I enter back into a serious relationship.
I didn't mean for this post to be long, but my only point is this: You MUST be compatible, because if you aren't that, then volatile becomes what you become.
 
CHASMAN9 said:
Ok, I am going to step out of my "fatherly leadership" role and interject my .02.

This is what is wrong with society today, too damn many people optioning out of situations and taking the easy way out. I respect the hell out of Kelly and Daniel for sticking it out and hope it continues to get better and better for you because I know for a fact that it does after 22 years being married. Josh, the ink isn't even dry on your marriage certificate and you both are already looking to get out!!!**** THAT... You said "I do" Casey said "I do", now suck it up and make it work out. Did the minister say "In sickness and health, for richer for poorer, till death do you part" YES, or did he say, "this is going to be rough and if you want to come back and get an Annulment"?NO.. Marriage takes work on both your parts and is not easy by any means. It is not always going to be coming home to the little lady wearing an apron and bringing you a cold Chocolate pudding brown pilsner on your easy chair and serving you a 7 course meals like Ward and June Cleaver. It takes two to make it work and in your situation, it takes 3.
Think back to last year, you were constantly posting up pictures of the 3 of you riding all over God's creation, eating, drinking, playing as a family and having fun. You sold the Red Baron and other toys so that you could cement your relationship with her. Both of your lives changed as you wanted them too, now 5 months into this and you are looking to throw all of it away.

Ephesians 5:25: "For husbands, this means love your wives, just as Christ loved the church. He gave up his life for her."
Genesis 2:24: "Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh."

Maybe(probably) this is not what you want to hear from me, call me a **** if you want, but I don't want to see you make a mistake that you will regret later by taking the easy road. Before you two make up your minds to throw in the towel, look at the BIG picture and put aside your individual feelings and try to see each others side. IT can work and will if you really want it too, and I think you do.




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You know I'd never call you a **** Gregg...well I might call you one but never would think you were one haha. I know you too well and I value a straight shooter above most any other personality trait, which is why I've always considered you a friend. I know it sounds sudden and premature, but we've had some arguements that escalated into verbal war, several of them. I am definitely not one to make an easy exit, but I refuse to live life unhappy if things do not change. That doesn't mean I won't give things every opportunity to change, but I can't wrap my head around some of most unreasonable things she says sometimes, of course we all do when we're flustered I guess.

You said something that is very vital here:

"Before you two make up your minds to throw in the towel, look at the BIG picture and put aside your individual feelings and try to see each others side. IT can work and will if you really want it too, and I think you do."

I am very capable of removing myself from a situation and looking at what's right or wrong for the best interest of us both. She is incapable of doing that, until **** gets really bad like it has lately and you finally have a heart to heart with each other, then she gets somewhat reasonable, but ****! It shouldn't take verbal war to get to that point. She can't separate emotion/personal feelings from every day decision making.

She is a good hearted woman, works hard and is a great mother. I never in a million years would worry about her running around on me, ever. I have NEVER had a girl I could 100% say that about, even the better ones I dated before, I was always hesitant to trust anybody. Like I said, we don't argue over the big **** most people argue over, it's over dumb **** that mostly begins by her smarting off about something out of the blue and it absolutely lights a fire under my ass. But I think she has realized a little of what she does has a big impact on this now so maybe she will try harder to be less of a bitch, and I will try harder to overlook some of the **** she may say.

I understand holding up your end of the stick in marriage after vows are said, but I don't think anybody should have to remain in an unhappy marriage especially when someone becomes someone who they clearly wasn't before so soon after marriage. Maybe that sounds shitty, but I am in the business of being happy, everyone deserves to be happy. I don't want to be one of those guys always looking for the next motorcycle outting, offroad outting, golf outting, hunting trip, this or that, whatever it may be, as a primary way to get away from the wife. I remember a public thread on here about significant others, and could not believe some of the **** some folks were saying about their wives. How bad they hate them, it costs too much to get out of it now, wish they'd never got married, etc. I do not want to be that guy, not saying our marriage will turn into that, but before that point ever came, I would 100% get divorced provided there aren't any kids involved. I have an obligation to her son, but at the expense of an unhappy marriage, I think that obligation is limited, he has a good father already. I'm all for making it work, and we are going to continue on and see if things get better. I really hope it does, but right now I'm to the point of being afraid to make bigger life moves now with things already on the rocks. We want at least 1 kid together, probably only 1 since she already has one. Wouldn't mind having one within the next couple years, and it has been something that has been casually discussed for awhile. But damn, with **** going like it is now, I damn sure ain't gonna plant my seed until we are rock solid happy. I am 30 and she will be 30 in October, so we still have plenty more years to plan for an addition to the family, and we'll see if **** gets better or not.

As always, Gregg I appreciate you keeping it real! :drinkers:
 
LandSpeeder said:
I'm the youngest of five full-blooded children. I'm the only one that's never been married but have had serious live-ins. Two siblings have been married multiple times and two have made a pact to WORK THROUGH anything with their spouse. It's been my experience that once a person has experienced divorce, then that is ALWAYS their first option for them in the next relationship.
After my last live-in of a few years, I decided that I was done. It was a divorce of sorts and lots of invested money lost and financial stress was incurred on my end. 8 years after she moved out, I've only dated a few girls and almost got serious once. It's a very hard life going through life staying single... but it's so much more euphoric than what I went through with my past relationships and what you describe as well.
I'm convinced that when I meet a woman that loves the same things I do, and not just outdoor activities, but pointless travel, family on the weekends, fire pits when your bored on a wednesday night... stupid relaxing ****.... then and only then will I enter back into a serious relationship.
I didn't mean for this post to be long, but my only point is this: You MUST be compatible, because if you aren't that, then volatile becomes what you become.

Very well stated. Man I lived the single life for quite awhile, my last long 3.5 year relationship ended in 2008. I'm too content with single life to remain in an unhappy marriage forever. I hope it doesn't come to that point, but if **** doesn't get better, there's no reason for something that's broken to continue on, to me...especially if both parties aren't happy. I mean I understand the importance of marriage, but how can you justify two people remaining in a relationship together, unhappy, instead of maturely parting ways to hopefully find a life they each will be legitimately happy in? It'd be different if we had these problems 2 years ago before marriage was ever in the picture, but hell, **** was good up until about 5 months ago. A lot of it could be related to how much she works, so if **** gets better, we are going to try to find her a job that does not require her to work 5-6 days a week, with 3 or 4 of those days being 12 hour shifts. Maybe then it would take a lot off of her and she would calm her tits. Lol. I'm just thinking out loud on a lot of this, the very last option would be divorce and I damn sure don't want it to come to that. When I started this thread, divorce was certainly out there on the table. She said she was not happy at all, I agreed, she said if things don't get better, she is done. I also agreed. Then she left....so the possibility of divorce became VERY real in that moment. But since we talked Sunday night, her attitude has improved dramatically, but I imagine it will be short lived. We will see, maybe she does a complete 180, hopefully. Time will tell.
 
TacomaJD said:
I am very capable of removing myself from a situation and looking at what's right or wrong for the best interest of us both. She is incapable of doing that, until **** gets really bad like it has lately and you finally have a heart to heart with each other, then she gets somewhat reasonable, but ****! It shouldn't take verbal war to get to that point. She can't separate emotion/personal feelings from every day decision making.

This is one of my biggest problems at home. Emotion is all that matters. It doens't matter what's right and wrong, just how I feel. WTF. She actually conceded to me one time in an arguement that I was 100% correct and she was wrong, but it still shouldn't matter because feels and female and stuff. Tearing my ****ing hair out most of the time, but women mellow with age, as does my fire, it gets better
 
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blacksheep10 said:
This is one of my biggest problems at home. Emotion is all that matters. It doens't matter what's right and wrong, just how I feel. WTF. She actually conceded to me one time in an arguement that I was 100% correct and she was wrong, but it still shouldn't matter because feels and female and stuff. Tearing my ****ing hair out most of the time, but women mellow with age, as does my fire, it gets better
That is 100% what nearly all of our arguments end up being based off of. The rental house she inherited burns me up bc she hates spending money on it, I play the middle man bc I have to fix whats tore up and keep the tenant happy, but first I have to convince her to pay for it, bc she gets the $500 check every month so she pays for expenses there. All she sees is money coming out of her account, not that something really does need fixed there. Its all good when the checks come in, but god forbid you have to spend $75-$200 every few months to fix something on a paid for income property. Lol. She is getting much better about that now that we have been managing that property for over a year, but she still does it from time to time. She's just never had great financial responsibility and never moved large amounts of money around. So all this and our new home expenses seems out of her comfort zone. She is tight with her money, which is good. Rare to find a woman like that. I can pay everything we pay for by myself if I had to, she's just really independent and hates relying on me or trusting me when we go into debt on something big like the new house, even though we dont have much debt otherwise.

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I had a Psychology class, so I'm aware there are actual biological differences between men and women that affect thought process and I even try to take that into consideration, but sometimes it's still just too much Lol. Like how in the holy hell do you think that's normal/right/the way something should be done. Fawkin' women, can't live with em, can't live without 'em. Lol
 
TacomaJD said:
I had a Psychology class, so I'm aware there are actual biological differences between men and women that affect thought process and I even try to take that into consideration, but sometimes it's still just too much Lol. Like how in the holy hell do you think that's normal/right/the way something should be done. Fawkin' women, can't live with em, can't live without 'em. Lol

Me and a coworker were talking about this just today! After a while I just started doing it the way she wanted to and finally after so many times of seeing it doesn't work that way and she should've listened to me in the first place, she quit suggesting how to do things. I was in complete agony doing so but patience grasshopper was all I could think... worked out in the long run.
 

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