D60 Gears

[NotMatt]

3rd time's a charm on the setup you've got now?

I still can't see any reason other than faulty setup and/or bent or misaligned housing. 35" tires on a built 60, high or low pinion, front or rear, shouldn't be an issue.

 

[Wildman1]

3rd time's a charm on the setup you've got now?

I still can't see any reason other than faulty setup and/or bent or misaligned housing. 35" tires on a built 60, high or low pinion, front or rear, shouldn't be an issue.

I hope your right, I was thinking/hoping the same thing?

Okay some people wanted to see the gear patterns.
Old gear set, Precision Gears

New gear set, Yukon Gears

 

[Not Jobless]

I'm no master by any means of setting up R&P's but the pattern you show doesn't look right.

It looks as if it's running all the way to the outside edge (outer diameter) of the Ring

 

[Wildman1]

I'm no master by any means of setting up R&P's but the pattern you show doesn't look right.

It looks as if it's running all the way to the outside edge (outer diameter) of the Ring

Jobless,
I agree with you but I too am not an expert. If it is deflecting that much then I still wonder if there isn't something wrong with the center section.

 

[Cascade_Crawler]

looks like it was ran really high up on the tooth. You can also see where material has been pushed to the top of the tooth creating almost a sharp 'edge'

Was it noisy before it broke?

 

[Wildman1]

looks like it was ran really high up on the tooth. You can also see where material has been pushed to the top of the tooth creating almost a sharp 'edge'

Was it noisy before it broke?

No noise before it broke. And to be honest it really didn't make any noise when it broke. Just the growling when coasting after it broke.

 

[blackcj71]

looks like them were meshing to tight....like slim to none backlash

 

[Binder]

Hard to tell from the pictures and I'm no expert here but it looks like the pinion is too far from the ring gear.....

 

[mark]

Hard to tell from the pictures and I'm no expert here but it looks like the pinion is too far from the ring gear.....

Same, no expert, but I have been doing a little refreasher. Looks like pattern's riding a little to far on the face.

It really looking like poor set-up.... or something is moving AFTER the set-up.



Moving the rear to the front doesn't sound like a bad idea, then build a LP for the rear. But if $$ is tight I'd be tempted to try it one more time. Verify (and take pictures) of the pattern when its set up. Wheel it, then pull it again and run the pattern again. See if things are moving. Maybe do that for a while till it breaks again or you verify nothings wrong.



Just a web-wheeling thought.
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[Bunk1]

Theres yer power robber.

 

[Cascade_Crawler]

looks like them were meshing to tight....like slim to none backlash

It was my understanding that if it was that far to the heel that there was too much backlash, but its hard to get a pattern centered heel to toe or maybe I just suck. The more I look at that photo the more I think it was setup with the pattern way to high up. There is significant space between the root of the tooth and where the phosphate has been worn off...

 

[blackcj71]

It was my understanding that if it was that far to the heel that there was too much backlash, but its hard to get a pattern centered heel to toe or maybe I just suck. The more I look at that photo the more I think it was setup with the pattern way to high up. There is significant space between the root of the tooth and where the phosphate has been worn off...

ya after i wrote that i felt kinda retarded:awesomework:


Did you call me?

 

[darius]

The Pinion is too far away, backlash won't make a whole lot of diffenence (as long as it is in tollerance) It doesn't matter what you're backlash is, Preload the **** out of you're carrier, If the origional set up looked good, you're not preloading the carrier enough. Beat that ****er in with a dead blow.

 

[mark]

The Pinion is too far away, backlash won't make a whole lot of diffenence (as long as it is in tollerance) It doesn't matter what you're backlash is, Preload the **** out of you're carrier, If the origional set up looked good, you're not preloading the carrier enough. Beat that ****er in with a dead blow.

So, in a Dana-type axle, what would be the result of not enough pre-load? I could see the carrier maybe walking side-to-side, but in and out of the pinion???


Curious, since I just set up 2 sets of D44's and probably could/should have loaded them a little tighter (still had to beat them in, but not super hard).


There going to get torn apart again this winter, probably with only 1-2 runs on them ( ), but I'd like to know for the future.
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[darius]

So, in a Dana-type axle, what would be the result of not enough pre-load? I could see the carrier maybe walking side-to-side, but in and out of the pinion???


Curious, since I just set up 2 sets of D44's and probably could/should have loaded them a little tighter (still had to beat them in, but not super hard).


There going to get torn apart again this winter, probably with only 1-2 runs on them ( ), but I'd like to know for the future.

you would be surprised how many people shim a carrier just to the point of where it will still drop in, under load you can get quite a bit of movement. I know I said backlash doesn't matter, that is if preload is right, ever run a pattern with 20 thousanth's backlash, then only move the carrier bearing's? the pattern doesn't just stay the same with less backlash. My money is on not enough carrier preload. Also I have been in the process of setting up a diff, when your'e dealing with just a few thou of difference if the carrier is slightly cocked it will require a beating, yet on the next drop in it just fall's.

 

[Wildman1]

Okay I was being pretty pig headed at first. Now I am trying to go thru my options and look at each before I do anything.

1) I can put another R&P in the Tera CRD60

2) Get a LP D60 and then hang onto the CRD for a front axle

3) Get a 14bolt and do the same with the CRD

4) Get a D70 same w/ CRD

Of course I'll sell the D44 to help recover some of the cost. So lets hear it what would you do? Max tire size 37"

 

[blackcj71]

throw a new set if gears in and go.

 

[Not Jobless]

Okay I was being pretty pig headed at first. Now I am trying to go thru my options and look at each before I do anything.

1) I can put another R&P in the Tera CRD60

2) Get a LP D60 and then hang onto the CRD for a front axle

3) Get a 14bolt and do the same with the CRD

4) Get a D70 same w/ CRD

Of course I'll sell the D44 to help recover some of the cost. So lets hear it what would you do? Max tire size 37"

You have 35" tires, how do think that you can realistic run a 14 bolt or D70? Most people who run those end up putting on 42" tires to make up for all the ground clearance they loose with those boat anchors.

Option #2 is the only one you have listed that makes a bit of sense.

Option #5 would be a 35 spline 9" rear w/ standard low pinion 3rd or spend the money on the tru-hi 9.


And what's your hard on for CRD?

 

[Wildman1]

You have 35" tires, how do think that you can realistic run a 14 bolt or D70? Most people who run those end up putting on 42" tires to make up for all the ground clearance they loose with those boat anchors.

Option #2 is the only one you have listed that makes a bit of sense.

Option #5 would be a 35 spline 9" rear w/ standard low pinion 3rd or spend the money on the tru-hi 9.


And what's your hard on for CRD?

Brad,
I am just trying to sit dawn and spend my money RIGHT this time. Hell If I ahd known about the issues I was going to have with the CRD rear axle I would have never bought it.
Yes I'd love to spend some bling on new axles right now. Like they say, hindsight is 20-20.

A D70 or 14bolt my be too big for my current tires. But if I am running 37" tire then what? I just want something that isn't going to keep breaking.

One other thought for right now is to regear the CRD60 and then start shopping for axle while I am driving the Jeep. Then when I have new axles done just swap them out.

And I don't have a Hard on for the CRD I just figured why get rid of it since i already have it. Retube the thing and make a frint axle out of it.

 

[Not Jobless]

Do a junkyard 60 and put 35 spline axles in it, it's the most economical of your choices.

Even running 37's a 14 bolt and D70 are still too big.